Monday, May 28, 2007

Feelings

So yesterday, first I was in the Library in the morning, as I don’t have a printer. As fate would have it , the computer that was assigned to me, had me sitting next to a rather attractive young, frum lady. She was quite a distraction, but not for the obvious reason that most people would think. I really admired her shoes and hosiery. How I would of loved to tell her, and have a girl-girl conversation.

Her sheitl was also really beautiful. I found it frustrating, beyond words that I couldn’t tell her so, but obviously in our circles that would be suicidal. I wonder how many of my new friends, that BH, I have been fortunate to meet thru this blog experiences these nesoynos on a regular basis.




Later on in the afternoon, I had to attend a Vort . Since, I didn’t know a soul there, as it was my wife’s friend , I spent most of the time together with my wife in the lady’s section. There was no one to talk to, so I basically was just observing what everyone was wearing, and how put-together most of the girls were. I experienced tremendous feelings of jealousy, as I would of loved to get all dolled out for this affair. Especially since on a more social note, I find it somewhat unfair that often I can go to a Shalom Zochur or Kiddush, even with a crowd that I know and still just sit there the whole time and be totally ignored. Whereas, my wife or mother-in-law can go to the same simchas, and know absolutely no one and yet all the ladies are very friendly and talk to them the whole time. . I sometimes make myself happy by fantasizing that I say some magic words, and puff, Im one of the girls, the prettiest one, lol…

Shirah, commented about the brocha “Shelo Asani Isha”. That is something to ponder. Do you go by your thoughts, feelings, emotions, or do you still go by your physical mtzius. Its hard to say. On the whole topic of cross-dressing in general, and the emotional feelings in particular, first I asked a number of rather Yeshivish Rovs in the community. I specifically went to the ones that I had the impression were very open-minded and understating. To my total chagrin and disappointment, they just said, that it’s a disgusting, sick world and such ppl need help. Fortunately, I was pleased that I emailed here, and they did a very nice piece, even though they sidestepped the core of the matter. But at least, I know where to go to discuss it further.

In conclusion, I also want to say thank youto SaraH, the warmth and friendship she has extended me means a lot.

28 comments:

ggggg said...

Shame on any Rov that answers a question with such a statement.

Shoshana said...

Thanks for your support LV, I;m kind of used to it. The big players in Lakewood/Monsey/NY dont want to touch the "hot potato" issues.

Check this book out. Not saying he is 100% right, but at least hes willing to address it..

http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?z=y&EAN=9780853035015&itm=2

Shirah said...

Hi shani,

I am proud of the strong way you responded to such mean comments as this rude LV guy.

Take my words as a great support to all of your toughts and ideas, and just be strong with your opinions.

Remember this: At night when you go to bed and you look at your self image in the mirror while sliping down your skirt, followed by taking off your nice sheer pantyhose which of course comes right after taking off your high heels, and than putting on your soft satin night gown with nicely prints full of satin layers and ruffles, needlees to mention that it's sleevless so you can still enjoy looking on your nice soft shaved arms. By bringing up these toughts in your mind, you know one thing for sure: that all of these feelings is just a gift from Hashem. Something which not all man can enjoy, and especially not that LV guy who never has such joy, nor can he ever understand any such experience as that. The only joy he does have is to tease you. But, please don't even give him a one percent chance to think that you are bothered with his comments.

Remember, Shani, we love you and you have our support and let's together continue to share all of our nicest things with each other. and have a lovely night.

Your freind Shirah

Shoshana said...

I dont think, he meant anything bad by it, Shira. Im sorry if you felt it wasnt nice.

From reading his blog, he seems ok.But I do appreciate your support and your friendship.

Anonymous said...

I've had those feelings all the time, whether its my friends wives or my wifes friends or my sisters/in-laws, i would rather sit in their group and discuss whatever they're discussing rather than sit with the men and shmuz with them, even if I'm enjoying the mens shmuz.

Aviva Tamar said...

You know, it's chasuna season now, and it's tough to see all those beautiful women dressed so prettily. I'd much rather be on the other side of the mechitza, but not for the usual "men's" reasons! Those gorgeous skirtsuits, flowing sheitels, high heels, Need I say more, ladies?

Sara with NO H said...

Crapola! I've tried to comment here 3 times and all three times it didn't save!!! AHHHHHHH! OK. Here's my last try, and I know I can't remember the witty things I said in the last comments so I'll just say, I'm here for you whenever you need someone. I know I'm just a girl :P but you should know there are people, one being me, that care about you out there in the world. ok...fingers crossed...let's see if this posts because I'm getting a little annoyed.

Sara with NO H said...

wooohoooo!!!!!!!!

Sara with NO H said...

Oh and to Aviva, every season is chasina season. ;)

Shoshana said...

Sara...sorry about that. Blogger is still being debugged, arggh!.
The best thing is to write comments in notepad or word and cut/paste over..

Very happy to see you.

ESTI said...

There are very few men who can appreciate their femininity. These vary from the full time crossdresser,to the occassional one to the fetishist. Each one has the special bracha of feeling feminine. It is truly something special that the ribono shel olam gave us and it is imperitive to feel as feminine as our circumstances allow. I B"H am a full time crossdresser I live my life as a woman, enjoying all the benifits of same.I am 5"7(in stocking feet) and 128 lbs. I can go into any store and try on skirts, dresses,heels and even bras ( i am blessed with 38B's).
I truly love being a girl
LOVE to all
and enjoy your femininity. IT IS TRULY A BRACHA.

Perele said...

Hi Esti, I'm glad to see you again. Can I ask you how is physically, and anatomically still a men, meaning that you didnt have a surgical procedure. How do you deal with male-oriented mitzvos.

Do you put on tefillin every morning, if you are in an ezras noshim, is it ok to davern with a minyan, and hear Krias aTorah, or Megilla from there. Or do you for all practical purposes just act like any other frum woman would publicly..

Anonymous said...

girls,

I think we should have some type of online group where we could discuss it all. i can thing of two places either facebook.com or yahoo groups

anyone interested?

Shirah said...

Hi to all of my cute and lovely freinds.

It's so good that all of us are here together responding to each one's diffrent ideas.

I am especially happy for you Esti, that you are in full fem 24/7 I wish I could of done it too, but unfortunately I can't since I am married with childern.

But yes whenever I can I put on all of the frilly feminine clothes. And I am in heaven when I wear them, Oh! it feels so good. somehow when I am in fem all of the stress of the daily life just disappear.

It would have been a good idea to form a yahoo group for us. so who is the starter?

As Perele mentioned it's interesting to know about Esti's way of dealing with tefilin and other male mitzvos.

Did any of you had a chance to read the Newsweek article about transvestites which I told you about last week? any comments on it?

A lovely evening to all of you.

Shirah

Aviva Tamar said...

Sarah, great idea. I thought an IRC chat room might be a good idea for real-time chats too.

ggggg said...

Shira- WTF?!!! Did you even read my comment to realize that I was supporting Shoshana 1000%, and knocking the Rabbonim that refuse to answer his/her valid questions and refuse to acknowledge that not everyone is like them?

I don't know how anyone can misconstre what I wrote to make it a mean and rude comment!

Shoshana- you have my support 1000% and I will check out that book!

Good luck!

Shoshana said...

LV, thanks , I appreciate it. Tell us what you think of the book..

Sounds like a great idea, Aviva, Im looking into facebook..

Of course, I read the article in Newsweek, even coughed up 5$ for it in B&N, then I wanted a Rov's opininon on the article. He is usually very open-minded. But he just said dont bring that filth into the shul..

I know exactly what you mean, Shira. Just took a relaxing bath, with the bath oil, and Jean Nate lotion, I didnt want to leave..

Then splash on a lil Victoria Secret fragrance . Nothing like it in the whole world..

Perele, you read my mind..
Good Night Esti, and the rest of you. I love you all. Especially, you, Sara_H...

Sara with NO H said...

Aww love you too.

Anonymous said...

i have a private facebook.com group set up already, is anyone else here on facebook?

Aviva Tamar said...

Sara, how do the rest of us girls get into it?

Anonymous said...

Aviva,

I sent an invite to the email on your profile.

Shoshana said...

Sara, did you email it to me..

Anonymous said...

shoshana -- looks like i did, aviva has that same email on her profile

Anonymous said...

picnic at the lake anybody?

ESTI said...

DEAR GIRLFRIENDS,
IN REPLY TO YOUR QUESTIONS, I DAVEN 3 TIMES A DAY B'YCHIDUS AND I DO PUT ON T'FILIN EVERY MORNING. I GO TO SHUL EVERY SHABBOS & YOMTOV. I TRY TO GET THERE IN TIME FOR BRACHOS BUT IT ISNT ALWAYS EASY. (I'M USUALLY ONE OF THE FIRST ONES IN THE EZRAS NASHIM ANYWAY,EVEN THE REBBITZEN COMES LATER)IT TAKES A GIRL TIME TO DRESS PROPERLY FOR SHABBOS.(LIKE ANY OTHER GIRL I LOVE TO BE LOOKED AT.)
I BENTCH ESROG & CHANUKAH LICHT IN MY APARTMENT LIKE MOST FRUM GIRLS.

IF YOU GET A DISCUSSION GROUP GOING PLEASE SEND THE LINK.

ENJOY YOUR FEMININITY

LOVE ESTI

Anonymous said...

esti, we need your email address, does aviva have it?

Shirah said...

I am so jealous on you that you are able to be yourself, and be feminized 24/7. I wish I would have been able to do it. I am so happy for you. I was just curious to know more about your fem life, how it started, does your family know about it, do they support you. It would have been very helpful to me and all of us lovely girls if you canto describe your fem life in detail, kind of a bio sheet or so, maybe start your own web address describing how you got to it and actually for how many years you are leading such a precious feminized life.
It would have helped me in several ways. Maybe I should come out from the closet to my family too. Who knows? I may totally loose them, or you never know; I may even get their support.

Esti, we look forward to hear from you. And as Sara mentioned your email address would be nice if you will provide it to us.

Love and huggs


Shirah

ESTI said...

For anyone who wants to reach me feel free I can be reached at ESTHER1009@AOL.COM. I will be away from the computer from Wednesday 6/6-monday 6/11